Rollin Ballz Crew

RBC -- Rollin Ballz Crew
 
About Rolling
  1. MDMA speeds up serotonin and dopamine release and use.
  2. you get high
  3. serotonin runs out
  4. dopamine goes where serotonin normally would.
  5. oxidized dopamine molecules cause damage to nerves.
  6. The higher your serotonin levels are before you Roll, 
    the less dopamine will become oxidized.
  7. The less dopamine in your system the less the chance of
    oxidized dopamine forming.
Ingredients Needed

Time Line

  • Day 01 - Preload
  • Day 02 - Preload
  • Day 03 - Preload
  • Day 04 - Drop
  • Day 05 - Post Load -- this is when you get home from the party before passing out/going to sleep
  • Day 06 - Post Load

Preload

It is best to space out amino acid intake to minimize competition between them. for maximum absorbance take with something sugary preferably grapefruit juice. Also when dealing with amounts try to keep constancy, if you take the lowest amount for one take the lowest amount for all. I recommend taking the lowest amount of each because the rest will most likely just be flushed from your body without being used.

500-1000mg Magnesium
500-1000 L-Glutamine
Grapefruit juice

Wait 1 hour or more
500-2000 DLPA
Grapefruit juice

Wait 1 hour or more and Before Going to sleep
100-200mg 5-HTP
25-50mg Vitamin B-6
200-1000mg Vitamin C
Grapefruit juice

Drop

Try to relax as much as possible and get yourself in a good mood for the trip ahead.

  • Go out and eat a good meal consisting of fish and lots of green vegetables, since you won't eat for like 24 hours probably.
  • Don't eat 5-6 hours prior to dropping -- you want an "empty stomach" so the pill takes effect quicker and more efficiently
  • Take some Rolaids/Tums to neutralize your tummy about an hour before dropping, or at the same time as your drop -- this helps with prolonging your roll since less of the pill is being dissolved by stomach acids as well as wards of any nausea feelings
  • after dropping, stay warm and active. sitting around will make the roll come on slower and weaker. moving around/dancing helps to get it in your blood and to your brain quicker. the cold will just kill your roll.
  • some people i know like to chew the pill to break it down and help come on quicker and more intense. i find this makes me nauseus sometimes since it's sooo much at once (and it tastes like ass).
  • Drink water, but not too much water. You can over-hydrate which will thin your blood and could cause death or screw up the saline content ratio, just as much as you can over-heat and dehydrate. Be smart. In addition to drinking water, drink other fluids, especially things designed to replenish you. Gatoraid and other sports drinks work well. A little known secret is that "Pediatric Electrolyte" formulas work as that is what they're designed for. Get them in the baby isle of any supermarket for about $5/liter -- plus it goes with the whole Candy Raver/Pacifier thing ;-)
  • Also, force yourself to urinate every few hours -- you will forget to do this and your bladder will be full.

100mg 5-HTP
25mg Vitamin B-6
200mg Vitamin C
Grapefruit juice

2-4 Rolaids
500-2000 DLPA
MDMA
Drink water, but not too much!

Before Going to sleep
100mg 5-HTP
25mg Vitamin B-6
200mg Vitamin C
Grapefruit juice

Postload

If you have PROZAC take a regular dose about 4 hours after you have taken MDMA, Prozac has been proven to prevent neurotoxicity, by preventing the creation of Oxidized Dopamine.

Before Going to sleep
100-200mg 5-HTP
25-50mg Vitamin B-6
200-1000mg Vitamin C
Grapefruit juice

Cleanse

Now its time to take it easy. revert back to your normal lifestyle. Drink lots of water and pay attention to your body's needs. Eat well and take a multi vitamin. Search for the news about the next party and bullshit with your friends about all the stupid shit you did when you were high.

Related Supplements
Niacin (Essential Vitamin) 
Vitamin B-3

FDA RDA : 20mg
Toxicity :
Avoid more than 200mg per day. Taking more than this may result in temporary itchy flushed RED skin and extreme rise in skin temperature puting you in a position not unlike having a bad sun burn. 
Found In
salmon, coffee, liver, lean meat, poultry, rabbit, nuts, peanut yeast, meats, cereals, legumes, asparagus, seeds, milk, green leafy vegetables, and other fish.
Body Uses it for
Required for cell respiration
Helps in the metabolism of carbohydrates, fats, and proteins
Proper circulation and healthy skin
Functioning of the nervous system
Normal secretion of bile and stomach fluids
Synthesis of sex hormones
Treating schizophrenia and other mental illnesses
Possible Effects
Memory-enhancer and mental alertness  
Long lasting natural burst of energy due to proper metabolism of carbohydrates


 

Magnesium (Essential Mineral) 

FDA RDA : 400mg
Toxicity :
Found In
salmon
Body Uses it for
muscle relaxation
Possible Effects
minimize jaw clenching
minimize cramping due to dehydration
Warnings
If you have heart or kidney problems check with your doctor before taking large doses

 

Vitamin B-6 (Essential Vitamin) 
Pyridoxine

FDA RDA : 2mg
Toxicity :
Found In
potatoes, bananas, raisin bran cereal, liver, turkey, and tuna
Body Uses it for
Essential for the processing of amino acids 
Needed in the formation of several neurotransmitters
Needed to make serotonin, melatonin, and dopamine
Increases the bioavailability magnesium
for the above reasons B-6 is the most important component for this formula to work.

Building Block
Levodopa +  Vitamin B6 = dopamine
L-Tryphtopan + Vitamin B6 =  serotonin

 

Vitamin C (Essential Vitamin) 
Absorbic Acid

FDA RDA : 60mg
Toxicity :
none, water soluble, large dose (25,000mg) may cause stomach problems (well no shit!)
Body Uses it for

antioxidant
FDA RDA : 60mg
Possible Effects
Remove oxidized dopamine which can cause nerve damage

 

5-HTP (Amino Acid
5-Hydroxytryptophan

FDA RDA : not set
Toxicity :
none, but high dose may result in stomach upset, sleepiness, anxiety, and headaches
Possible Effects

counteract the forming of oxidized dopamine which can cause nerve damage
when using MDMA, a smoother roll with less empathy and a gentle comedown
More Info
5htp.com

Building Block
precursor for >>> serotonin

 

DLPA (Amino Acid)
DL-PhenylAlanine

FDA RDA : not set
Toxicity :
none, but high dose may result in stomach upset, sleepiness, anxiety, and headaches
Found In
salmon, fish, eggs, chicken
Body Uses it for
Prolongs life span of endorphins, the natural morphine (pain killers) found in the brain. 
Possible Effects
helps to prolong the duration of action of pleasure inducing nurochemicals
Warnings
If you are taking a MAO or tricyclic antidepressant, DO NOT use DLPA

Building Block
precursor to >>> L-Tyrosine >>> levodopa >>> dopamine
precursor to >>> phenylethylamine
 

L-Glutamine (Amino Acid)

FDA RDA : not set
Toxicity :
none, but high dose may result in stomach upset, sleepiness, anxiety, and headaches
Found In
salmon, meats, fish, spinach, parsley, beans
Body Uses it for

Glutamine is a substrate for the production of both excitatory and inhibitory neurotransmitters. 
Important source of energy for the nervous system.
Plays a key role in the metabolism, structure, and function of the entire gastro-intestinal tract, and its extensive immune system.
Possible Effects
More energy, less fatigue and better mood.
lessens cravings for sweets, used in weight loss 
reinforced digestive system
Warnings
If you have liver or kidney problems check with your doctor before taking large doses

Building Block
precursor to >>> GABA
precursor to >>> glutamate

 

L-Tyrosine (Amino Acid)


FDA RDA : not set
Toxicity :
none, but high dose may result in stomach upset, sleepiness, anxiety, and headaches
Found In
salmon, meats, fish, wheat, oats
Body Uses it for
Tyrosine is important to the structure of almost all proteins in the body
Possible Effects
enhance rushy, body buzz, speedy effects when taking MDMA
Warnings
I do not advise taking this supplement before rolling. It will increase dopamine production in your body. While rolling dopamine becomes oxidized, oxidized dopamine is what causes the neurotoxicity of MDMA. More oxidized dopamine in your system increases the risk of nerve (receptor) damage.  

Building Block
precursor to >>> levodopa  >>> dopamine
precursor to >>> epinephrine (adrenaline)
precursor to >>> norepinephrine

 

L-Tryptophan (Amino Acid)

FDA RDA  : 3mg per kg of Body Weight
Toxicity :
none, but high dose may result in stomach upset, sleepiness, anxiety, and headaches
Found In
salmon, bananas, milk, sunflower seeds and turkey
Body Uses it for
helps with 
Possible Effects
see Serotonin

Building Block
precursor to >>> 5-htp >>> serotonin
precursor to >>> niacin

Important Terms

Serotonin (neurotransmitter)
5-HT

Serotonin is normally involved in temperature regulation, sensory perception, and mood control It also plays a major role in emotional disorders such as depression, suicide, impulsive behavior, and aggression.
Rolling Effect

Good mood, empathic, mushy effects
Low Serotonin Symptoms
craving of sugar and other carbohydrates, bouts of depression, frequent headaches, and vague muscle aches and pain.

 

Dopamine (neurotransmitter)

As a chemical messenger, dopamine is similar to adrenaline. Dopamine affects brain processes that control movement, emotional response, and ability to experience pleasure and pain.
Rolling Effect

Rushy, body buzz, speedy effects
More info
university of  Texas

 

Oxidized Dopamine (neurotransmitter)

"The Enemy" normally these guys pose no threat to a healthy body, but with the introduction of MDMA into the equation things can get a little backwards. Resulting in confused Oxidized Dopamine trying to replace serotonin, and causing a bit of nerve damage in the process. Loads of Vitamin C in the system will clean these guys up before they can cause any damage. Oxidized Dopamine is created by an enzyme named monoamine oxidase (MAO), it breaks down dopamine in a natural process essential for your body to operate. 


Norepinephrine (neurotransmitter)

Also called noradrenaline is a neurotransmitter that doubles part-time as a hormone. As a neurotransmitter, norepinephrine helps to regulate arousal, dreaming, and moods. As a hormone, it acts to increase blood pressure, constrict blood vessels and increase heart rate - responses that occur when we feel stress.

Glutamate and GABA (Amino Acid)
gamma-amino butyric acid 

Amino acids that act as neurotransmitters. The majority of synapses within the brain use glutamate or GABA. They also have other functions in the body such as making energy-rich molecules in cells.

Levodopa
 L-Dopa 

 

Neurotransmitter

Neurotransmitters are chemicals which are released into the synaptic space whenever a neuron conducts an action potential to the axon terminals. There are perhaps 100 or so different neurotransmitter varieties in the brain, including dopamine and serotonin.

Melatonin

a natural hormone that regulates the human biological clock. excess of this hormone can make you sleepy.

 

FDA RDA (Federal Drug Administration Recommended Daily Allowance)

The minimum dosage that you require per day, to ward off serious deficiency of this particular nutrient. In the therapeutic use of this nutrient, the dosage is usually increased considerably, but the toxicity level must be kept in mind.

 

Grapefruit Juice

Why grapefruit juice? A compound found in grapefruit juice (6,7-dihydroxybergamottin) inhibits enzymes that metabolize drugs in humans. Most supplements are not absorbed by the body and merely washed through with other wastes. If you can increase the bioavailability of all the supplements you are taking you will get more bang for your buck, this includes MDMA.

Amino acids

The building blocks of protein. Twenty amino acids are needed to build the various proteins used in the growth, repair, and maintenance of body tissues. Eleven of these amino acids can be made by the body itself, while the other nine (called essential amino acids) must come from the diet. The classification of an amino acid as essential or nonessential does not reflect its importance, because all twenty amino acids are necessary for health. Instead, this classification system simply reflects whether or not the body is capable of manufacturing a particular amino acid.

 

In Summary
The grapefruit juice is a key ingredient. while i hate the taste of it, it's the only way to get that compound. basically what it's doing is preventing your body from flushing out the excess of the other things you're taking (but not using just yet). Then when you drop, you have the things you need in abundance to help minimize damage -- like the Vitamin C and extra Seratonin. you also want to space the vitamins out as described b/c they work together and again, too much excess you're more likely to flush them out. this way there's more chance of them staying in you as you go to the bathroom throughout the day. You take the vitamin B-6, 5-HTP and vitamin C at night before going to bed for the following reasons: first of all your brain does most of it's repairs at night while sleeping. 5HTP would fall in this category. B6 is needed for 5HTP to become Seratonin. Vitamin C tends to give me the poopies *blush* if i have too much since it's so acidic (ie. too much orange juice or whatever), so if i take it at night, it seems to "stick" better with me.

So why do all this? well my friend, the short answer is this: i find that my rolls are much better. more intense, last longer, more euphoric (thanks to DLPA), all that good stuff. it helps to minimize brain damage in theory ;-), and my recovery day (the day after) is minimal. i am usually quite functioning, but just either tired from lack of sleep, or body sore from dancing so much. but mentally, i'm not depressed or anything. i say "usually". i sometimes sit and zone/stare off at the tv, but i'm not depressed, just apathetic. if my friends come get me or whatever, i'm find to hang out.

You can get all this stuff at any vitamin store. it's all legal and has uses for other things. the initial expence is a bit steep -- maybe $100, but each bottle is a different size/quantity, so you won't be buying them all, all the time. you'll use them up at different rates, so it isn't such a hit. then again, what's a hundred bucks or so to help protect your health and your brain is the way i see it!? if you wanna play with the big boys, you gotta ante up right. ;-)

Recommended
NameBrandPricemgQuantityComment
L-5-hydroxyTryptophan
5-HTP/C/B6
Solaray$41102/200/2560I like this one, since it is all in one and designed to work together
DLPASolgar 500100This is what causes a nice euphoric feeling through out the day
L-TyrosineGNC 100030 
MagnesiumGNC$12500120 

5-HTPOraLabs$255060 
5-HTP and Kava KavaSolaray 250/200100I like to take this one on the drop day. The Kava Kava helps to relax me.
B-6GNC$11200100 
CGNC$151000250Vitamin C is always good to take
Adendum
Since this writing, I have read a bit more, and the book "Ecstasy: Dance Drance & Transformation" (by Nicholas Saunders with Rick Doblin) on pg. 72 states: "Free radicals are formed by the redox cycling of MDMA in the brain. Excessive quantities may cause oxidative damage, but this could be avoided by taking antioxidant supplements. The suggested dose for prevention is 2-4 gm Vitamin C, 1000 IU Vitamin E, 5mg beta-carotene, 2gm bioflavonoids, 1gm L-cartinine, 2gm N-acetylcysteine, and 25 mcg Selenium. For treatemnt, three times this dose is recommended." -- Nutrients for blocking phenethylamine damage by Dr. Brian Leibovits, in MAPS Newsletter, Spring 1993.

Another link I found is this one that has some overlap, and some differences. I've yet to try it, but perhaps I will soon. I know others that try it and swear by it.

And this one seems to be pretty informative

FAQ
How long does E stay in the system and if it can be detected by a urinalysis or blood test?

The half life of E is about 6 hours, which means that after 6 hours 50% remains and after another 6 hours 25%, so that after 48 hours less that 1% remains which would be pretty hard to detect. Unlike cannabis, it does not get usually stored in body fat. However if you take several doses regularly, it is possible that some may be stored in your body fat and will be released gradually over a couple of weeks. Amphetamine stays in the body longer when urine is alkaline and consequently more is metabolized. In 24 hours, about 80% of a dose will be excreted if urine is acidic, while less than half is excreted if urine is alkaline. But with all piss tests, the more water you flush through, the more dilute your urine and the more likely that the concentration will fall below the limit for the test.

The easiest drug to detect is Cannabis, which is stored in the body fat and slowly released. It can be detected up to "five weeks after a single reefer," although people who drink plenty of water close to the test period are usually undetectable in two weeks or less. LSD and Mushrooms are hard to detect even after a few hours.

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